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Perpetual Mystic :paganverify:

I still cannot process the fact that, after everything he has done, all the evidence that has come out, what an awful human being he is, all the lies he's told, etc, etc, there are still enough people who support the orange tyrant that polls show he could actually compete with, maybe even beat Biden, in another election.

I mean, how can so many people be so beholden to such a shitty human being, who is so obviously concerned only about himself, lies with every breath he takes, and would love nothing more than to destroy democracy and install himself as dictator?

He referenced the Nazis in his comments - pretty freaking ironic, as I can now see how Hitler came to power, how they basically gave it to him. Will the MAGAs EVER wake the f up?

@LauraJMG It really is. Honestly, and I know some people say "No, no, that's not the answer," I sometimes wonder if a national divorce isn't the only way out of this - just declare one half of the country MAGAland, and let the rest of us be the US. I mean, I don't know how this ever gets put back together, especially with so many of the GOP completely unwilling to push back, call lies lies, etc.
Then you have Faux News, OAN, Newsmax pushing the bullshit.
How do we come back from this..?

@perpetualmystic I hear you. It's truly disheartening. A third of our population seem perfectly happy with fascism, as long as it's "their guys" at the top, and too many others cope by convincing themselves both sides are the same, or that there's nothing they can do about any of it, and check out altogether.

@perpetualmystic I don't think a national divorce is the answer, though. It would have dire consequences for those many millions of people trapped in the fascist substate that would result—which would share many long borders with the substate committed to democracy. The most economically-vulnerable among us would suffer the most.

@perpetualmystic I remember when NM flipped red in 2004 after a a squeaker of a vote for Gore in 2000. Blue-state people wanted a national divorce then, too, and I recall feeling real terror. I enjoy a lot of privilege, with my middle-class-ish whiteness and apparent cishet-ness, but we had a disabled child and were struggling financially; we would've had a very hard time moving out-of-state. I think many, many people want to live in a democracy, even in the reddest of states.

@perpetualmystic I think we owe it to them—and to the children and grandchildren of those who are running off the rails in favor of fascism—to stay in the fight for a re-unified USA.

That said, this era of delusion, dvision, and denial truly does suck.