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@georgetakei@universeodon.comPeople said we were being alarmist when we said extremist Christian nationalists would use the abortion laws to target women trying to escape Texas to receive an abortion.
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People thought Orwell was being alarmist when he wrote "1984"
@abqralph @georgetakei nobody thought that. And he was commenting on things that was already happening in his time - he just used means of allegory to illustrate his point.
Orwell was no prophet and most of you don't even understand what the book is really about. State surveillance is the least (but most visible) theme of 1984.
@fionor "most of you"
@abqralph @georgetakei Weird choice of fictional dystopia, given all the other, far more pertinent ones available, but OK.
@kittylyst @abqralph @georgetakei
"The Handmaid's Tale" is a bit more prescient.
@ExceedinglyTransGoat @abqralph @georgetakei Indeed. Regretably, among others.
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How long before they start proposing to build a wall around the state and make the neighboring states pay for it?
@Blort @georgetakei Or requiring all drivers to stop at checkpoints, present their papers, and reasons for traveling out of state. Reasons which would have to be registered with the state in a beurocracy that would, by comparison, make the DMV seem easy to navigate.
@TechyDad @Blort @georgetakei I can imagine mandatory pregnancy tests at state border checkpoints and just a general prohibition of traveling out of state for pregnant women in the theocratic states
@lanzz and if you add in all the "constitutional sheriffs" operating in these states, it's a recipe for terrorizing women of reproductive age driving to anything but a church service.
@Blort @georgetakei as a Texan not currently living in Texas: I mean, would we object to fencing them in?
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@Stacky @Blort @georgetakei The question is only how high the fence.
And there are innocents hostages inside.
And to take another page from the good old times of the Cold War, perhaps a nice minefield around Texas too, to make sure no one tries to pass the state line outside the office border stations along the interstates.
@Blort @georgetakei as a new Mexican, I agree to pay for this, so long as we get to keep the Texas part of El Paso.
@Blort @georgetakei You mean like with the Texas electricity grid.
Where the Texas consumer end up holding the bag, because GOP cannot accept Federal regulations, thus refuses to interconnect with the US backbone grids.
Hence Texas has a much higher tendency to blackouts in extreme weather, plus extreme pricing during such events.
I'm sure the idea initially was to make DC surrender, on the regulation, but it is what it is.
@georgetakei Do they not care about tourist dollars? I would rather not travel to areas that will harass me for just being an "out of stater".
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, @frazzledLoon @georgetakei Tourism is a natural enemy of fascism, so...probably not.
What was originally built as a barrier to entry can just as quickly become a means of preventing exit, making those inside prisoners.
@georgetakei this is insanity.
@georgetakei I can't see how this would be either enforceable or defensible.
@Steve
Interstate commerce comes to mind.
@Steve @georgetakei There are license plate scanners everywhere now. Enforcement might not be impossible.
@WesternInfidels @georgetakei But they'd have to establish motive, and to do that, they'd need the cooperation of law enforcement in the destination state, which they're not likely to get. Without that, all other evidence is circumstantial.
@Steve @georgetakei I'm not a lawyer, I don't know how this really goes.
But if you told me a Texas court found a formerly-pregnant person guilty of the crime of pregnancy termination on the basis of circumstantial evidence alone, I would not be surprised at all.
In any case, the threat of getting dragged into court and turning a quiet, private decision into a public show is coercive in and of itself, whether the state is likely to prevail in such a case or not.
@WesternInfidels @georgetakei That's a solid point, and the most likely real-world effect of this -- coercion and stigma.
@WesternInfidels furthermore if any of those routes are close enough to the United States border the federal government can literally stop people and check their papers. It happens in New Hampshire all the time up by Canada on I-93. They claim they are looking for illegal immigrants but really all they are doing are catching people driving without a license or in possession of marijuana. They do it because they can.
@Steve look into the "constitutional sheriff" movement.
You might already know this, but: Sheriffs are not mentioned in the constitution, directly or indirectly.
@EFreethought you know it and I know it, but the self-identified constitutional sheriffs don't seem to know it.
@georgetakei Idaho made leaving the state for an abortion or aiding anyone a crime last April.
@georgetakei "Lock her up" referred to ALL women
@georgetakei blimps for ‘bortions
@georgetakei Well, this seems like a pretty clear constitutionally protected freedom of movement violation. For a group of people so hell-bent on complaining about government over-reach, they sure are experts in how to keep over-reaching.
@georgetakei I guess no one there has bothered to read Gibbons v. Ogden (1824)
This Supreme Court decision forbade states from enacting any legislation that would interfere with Congress's right to regulate commerce among the separate states.
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/gibbons-v-ogden
@karlauerbach @georgetakei 
Republicans don't care about no steenkin' precedents.
@jstatepost @karlauerbach @georgetakei
Actually, they do. They just prefer medieval witch hunters over the Founding Fathers, or 200 years of US law.
@karlauerbach @georgetakei great, but when fascists are in charge they don’t follow the laws.
@georgetakei American Taliban.
@georgetakei I must be really dumb, because I can't tell what I'm looking at here. A lot lined up along 87? I mean, one dark orange zone is way down by the coast... ?
@acm_redfox @georgetakei A bunch of counties considering and/or passing unconstitutional ordinances.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/01/texas-abortion-highways/
@georgetakei @eljefedsecurit this is the most terrifying thing I've seen yet.
kakistocracy
omg it's a cohesive list of my high school reading curriculum 
That's horrifying
@georgetakei Taliban checkpoints. Terrifying.
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I've always expected the worst from those folks.
Doesn't this stuff fall afoul of the interstate commerce clause?
@georgetakei Stupid court bait. If it was even remotely constitutional (which it isn't) the response would be to withhold all federal highway funds from the state.
@georgetakei TOTAL BULL. What's next? Papers to prove where you are going whenever you leave the house? Fascism.
@georgetakei I think I'm going to ask this again, seriously this time.
What happens if you drive someone right up to the border, stop, the person gets out and walks for half a mile, then you just happen to drive by and pick that person up again?
@georgetakei Wer Radikale wählt, bekommt radikale Politik geliefert. Schönreden, verharmlosen und relativieren kann man natürlich machen. Dann aber lügt man sich in die eigene Tasche. Und danach ist es zu spät.
The GOP's anti-reproductive rights laws target black and hispanic women the most.
Republican billionaire donors know that black and brown women don't vote GOP & there's nothing like an unplanned pregnancy to derail a woman's life.
So much of their behavior is reminiscent of the Fugitive Slave Acts.
Republican billionaire donors want to repeal the 19th and thwart the passage of the ERA.
@georgetakei Wow, this is unreal.
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“Land of the free”, right? 
@georgetakei @BoredomFestival the land of brave and free...
Jesus Christ what a shithole country.
@georgetakei this is unbelievable. The dystopia is becoming a reality.
@georgetakei won't be suprised if red states ban thier people from traveling to blue states