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@oldrawgabbit @danwentzel

So you're just going to ignore all the examples that are found in Europe where it does work?

Road traffic is bad because the majority of commuters in the US take up 50 square feet (or more) of road space for one person. AKA, one car per person. Robust public transport (busses and trains), plus mixed use zoning (you can walk from your home to most where you need to go) are how we solve the problems US cities face.

@atatassault @oldrawgabbit @danwentzel Yeah what's going on here... lol.

I moved to Germany and lived in a small town along the Rhine. I could walk to: supermarket(s), dentist, hair cutting, pharmacy, doctor office, auto shop, gas station, school, church, eye doctor, bar, restaurant etc.

And there was public transportation to larger cities (19minutes).

I don't think anyone was commuting to work in my little town.

@SirLich @atatassault @oldrawgabbit @danwentzel
I never realized the privilege I have, being born and living in Sweden. I don't own a car and can bike to work and perform all my errands within 15 minutes.

Learning about how north American cities and urban planning is done is a complete horror show to me and really opened my eyes.

I have @notjustbikes to thank for educating me.

youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHA

@cragsand @SirLich @atatassault @oldrawgabbit @danwentzel @notjustbikes

As a Swede I must point out tho that we often have the opposite problem: if you live somewhere outside a large or medium city, we are very bad at enabling small communities the ability to continue existing.

@WhyNotZoidberg @cragsand @SirLich @atatassault @oldrawgabbit @danwentzel @notjustbikes we are ALSO not super awesome at this in the US, though. Both problems! Hooray :/

Cragsand :verified_coffee:

@thatandromeda @WhyNotZoidberg @SirLich @atatassault @oldrawgabbit @danwentzel @notjustbikes
I hope you can see some change in the future. Keep on promoting the ideas of walkable cities and inviting neighborhoods. Get engaged in your local community and politics and try to establish some form of change.
I know it's depressing and an incredibly difficult uphill battle, but if you keep doing it, maybe sometime in the future, our kids will be able to reap that benefit.
Cheers and best regards from Sweden

Apr 05, 2023, 15:04 · · · Web · 1 · 4

@cragsand @WhyNotZoidberg @SirLich @atatassault @oldrawgabbit @danwentzel @notjustbikes aw, thanks :) I happen to live in one of the few parts of the US that actually *is* pretty 15-minute; I didn't own a car for years and mostly don't need one. I can walk to lots of things. I just got a new subway line! But my part is in many ways not representative. (also um we're not awesome at paying for subway *maintenance*....)

@thatandromeda @WhyNotZoidberg @SirLich @atatassault @oldrawgabbit @danwentzel @notjustbikes

That's great news! I hope it continues. One way to fund public transportation is through public taxation. Especially on the highest earning tax payers. That way public transportation is guaranteed without it being a detriment to anyone!