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@siderea Okay this is a great thread and all, and very well laid out, but we TRIED that perspective and it didn't effectively CHANGE anything.

Look at the history of full-text search. It was debated EXTENSIVELY through 2017-2018, whether to yes or no, what effect it has on Twitter and how much of an effect, what effect we expect it to have here...

and we eventually settled on not doing it. Which lasted like 4 years until a large amount of people from Twitter came at once, and really wanted full-text search, and when the volume hit a pitch after a month or two Gargron flipped it and now we have full-text search.
And like. Maybe I missed the full thrust of the debates but I don't think that was theory-based? I don't think there was engagement with the objections from before in light of new information or theories, or perspectives or priorities. I think it just, with enough pressure, was changed.

(FL/OSS might be less democratic/uniform-consensus-based than you'd think, maybe.)

Gadfly (-booq-)

@siderea (I mean this honestly -- I DON'T know. I think it would be valuable to look back for those discussions, from this perspective.)

The other issue I worry about is, this perspective asks us to gather evidence by looking at social dynamics SEPARARED from their context, which is doable with some distancing, but like. This approach is fundamentally about self-consciously experimenting on ourselves, which is really asking a lot in terms of distancing. One person's "unjustifiable harassment campaign" is another's "no, this person genuinely has a pattern of creating dangerous social dynamics around themself". (And I say this as someone who's pretty sure I've held opinions on BOTH sides of that.) Debating what to do structurally requires a shared agreement about what happened in the past, IN PARTICULAR in socially-intense interactions/events. I don't know how much we can rely on that.